Zitat:Rob postete

Zitat:Ich glaube die größte Niederlage der Royal Navy war in den Dardanellen(1918) und bei den Falkland Inseln. Die Royal Navy dachte es währ eine Sonntags fahrt in Atlantic wie viel Schiffe haben die Argentinier versenkt ??
Das war ein schock für die unbesiegbare Royal Navy

Aber diesen Titel haben sie schon lange den Trägerverbände der US-Navy übergeben.

Warum heißt sie Royal ? Was bedeutet das ? Warum nennt man Sie nicht „British“ Navy so die dei andern Flotten der Welt.
royal TS

Kommt diese Titel noch von Kolonialzeit ???

Du wirst fest stellen das fast jedes Land das eine Monarchie hat ihre Marine ein Royal voranstellt.

Die Dardanellen waren 1915 und da war die Landung um Gallipoli viel schlimmer, hat übrigens Churchill mit verbockt (hat sich dann so zu sagen im 2. Weltkrieg rehabilitiert.).

Wieso waren die Falklands eine Niederlage ?
Ein paar Schiffe verlieren bdeutet nicht den Krieg zu verlieren, immerhin hat die Royal Navy bewiesen das sie immer noch die nummer drei der Welt war.


Das Royal wird vergeben, nur die Armee hat als ganzes kein Royal sondern nur einzelne Regimenter.

Zitat:Type 45 Destroyers

Dr. Julian Lewis: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what increase in capability would result from the upgrading of the gun turret on a Type 45 destroyer to house (a) a 127 mm and (b) a 155 mm gun, instead of a standard 115mm gun. [158141]



Mr. Ingram [holding answer 4 March 2004]: The overall capability offered by the Type 45 destroyer's gun is not related simply to the calibre of the barrel, but to the ammunition which could be used.

The standard 115 mm (4.5) gun is capable of delivering conventional munitions to a range of up to 27 km. 127 mm and 155 mm guns would be capable of firing munitions to a range of 75–80 km. They would also be capable of firing modern guided munitions and, in the case of the 155 mm gun, these would be considerably heavier than the 115 mm gun's conventional munitions.

The design of the Type 45 includes space and weight margins which would allow for the fitting of an improved Medium Range Gun, should such a requirement emerge. There is no such requirement at present. In the case of a 155 mm gun, this would also depend on the maturity of its technology, as there are no such naval guns yet in service world-wide.

Zitat:Dr. Julian Lewis: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence (1) for what reason it is not proposed to arm the new Type 45 destroyers with Tomahawk cruise missiles; [158139]


(2) how many Tomahawk cruise missiles he estimates could be mounted on a Type 45 destroyer. [158140]


Mr. Ingram [holding answer 4 March 2004]: The principal role of the Type 45 destroyer will be Anti-Air Warfare. There is currently no requirement for the Type 45 to be fitted with Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAM). If a requirement for TLAM arises in future, the Type 45 has been designed with substantial space and weight margins to enable its capability to be upgraded through life. We currently estimate that up to 16 TLAM missiles could be mounted on a Type 45 Destroyer.

Zitat:Carrier is high and dry
This is HMS Illustrious as you have probably never seen her before – from below.
And you won’t see her like this again for some time to come, either.
In a 270m-long dry dock at Rosyth dockyard in Scotland, the 26-year-old carrier awaits the moment the sluice gates are opened and she is afloat once more as the latest stage of her refit is completed.

Zitat:UTVÆR: A single Norwegian submarine prevented Bluelands landing operation. The crew of KNM Utvær did infact do so well that they were removed from the exercise for 72 hours.

The mood was good on KNM Utvær, even though they were taken out of the exercise Joint Winter for three days. They simply did too good a job and was removed to let the landing and field operations part of the exercise begin. The commander of the boat, Øistein Helge Jensen, gave stealth the highest prority and got so many British kills that they lost count in the end.

Zitat:- I have seen much I have never seen before. We have been moving more in the littorals and the navigation has been more demanding than I'm used too. It has been a great experience and I hope I can get a CD-Rom with periscope pictures of Albion, Invincible, the destroyers and the frigates we sunk and the bridges we have sailed under. Vi have done things that is every submarines dream, says Clarke.

Zitat:Wegen Verzögerungen im Baufortschritt der neuen U-Boote der ASTUTE-Klasse - mit Zulauf des Typbootes absehbar frühestens im November 2007 - müssen ältere U-Boote der Royal Navy länger in Dienst gehalten werden als bisher geplant.

Zitat:In 2003 the Royal Navy started preliminary (pre-concept) studies investigating options for a replacement for HMS Ark Royal in her secondary CVS role from 2014/15, and HMS Ocean in her primary LPH role from 2018. A relatively low-cost, medium displacement (20-30,000 tonnes) Landing Platform Helicopter (LPH) or Landing Platform Helicopter and Dock (LHD) is the most likely outcome. A co-operative project with another European country such as the Netherlands is an option.

Zitat:Als die 16.000 ts große MOUNTS BAY bei der zu BAe-Systems gehörenden Govan-Werft ins Wasser glitt, kam sie vom vorgesehenen Kurs ab und rammte mit ihrem Heck eine Holzpier am gegenüberliegenden Ufer. Die Beschädigungen am Schiff werden von der Werft allerdings als "nur oberflächlich" bewertet.

Zitat:MoD rejects BAE as lead contractor in £3bn carrier deal
By Russell Hotten
April 27, 2004

BAE SYSTEMS, Britain’s biggest defence group, has been dropped as lead contractor on a £3 billion aircraft carrier project, it emerged yesterday, sending relations between the company and the Ministry of Defence to new lows.

Whitehall officials are incensed by BAE’s announcement that it is considering the sale of its shipbuilding operations, seen by the MoD as an attempt to “strong arm” it over the deal. One official said: “It’s irresponsible. They are trying to stir up a storm among the defence lobby.” Another added: “They’ve thrown their toys out of the pram.”

If BAE were to sell its shipbuilding operations, the MoD may be forced to renegotiate the aircraft carrier deal. BAE was told two weeks ago that the project would be run by an alliance rather than a single company, a system proposed by Amec, the project engineering group advising the MoD.

The MoD decided that BAE could not be trusted with the project after the defence group indicated that delivery of the first carrier may be delayed by two years. BAE also told the MoD that the proposed cost of the vessels would have to rise £1 billion to £4 billion. “It won’t happen,” said a defence official. “There will be no compromise on price.”

Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, has informed BAE that he will not be held to ransom over the cost and timing of the carrier programme. A defence source said: “Trying to threaten ministers with a withdrawal from shipbuilding could be a catastrophically stupid move.” BAE denied that its announcement on the future of shipbuilding was linked to the carrier.

BAE owns two shipyards in Glasgow, and a site at Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, making three nuclear submarines. Britain’s VT Group and America’s General Dynamics are tipped as possible buyers, but the Government may balk at strategic defence businesses being sold to foreign companies.

As prime contractor on the carriers, BAE would have been in charge of the most lucrative part of the project, integrating the various elements, such as the defence and computer systems. But BAE’s poor record on delivering major projects, such as the Nimrod aircraft, made the MoD look at alternative ways of working. The MoD was criticised in January by the National Audit Office for allowing projects to spiral out of control. And Lord Bach, the defence procurement minister, was determined to find a new way of working, seeing the carrier programme as a test case.

The project will be run by an alliance of companies, including Thales, VT Group, Babcock, and BAE, each with representatives on a board, with the Defence Procurement Agency acting as chairman. Each company will share more of the risk and reward for building the vessels on time and budget.

ALVIS INQUIRY

The Office of Fair Trading is to investigate the proposed £309 million takeover of Alvis, the UK armoured vehicle maker, by General Dynamics, the US defence group. The Department of Trade and Industry said the takeover, the first major bid by a US company for a UK defence firm, had national security implications. BAE Systems owns 29 per cent of Alvis, and was due to decide soon whether to sell its stake. GD is tipped as a potential buyer of BAE’s submarine business.

Zitat:Ministry of Defence Purchases Updated and Enhanced Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles


(Source: UK Ministry of Defence; issued April 21, 2004)


The Ministry of Defence has reached agreement with the United States Government, under the terms of a Foreign Military Sales case, to purchase 64 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAM), Lord Bach, Minister for Defence Procurement, announced today.

These conventionally armed land attack missiles are the new 'Block IV' TLAM (also known as TacTom), which have a higher specification than our existing - 'Block III' - missiles. As such, they will provide the added ability to retarget or abort mission in flight and will have a Battle Damage Indication capability. They will be capable of being fired from our current Trafalgar Class submarines as well as from the new Astute Class submarines when they enter service.
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Zitat:New Vehicle for Royal Marines Arrives on Time and to Cost


(Source: UK Ministry of Defence; issued April 13, 2004)


The UK's elite Royal Marine Commandos have started taking delivery of Viking - a new armoured, all-terrain vehicle capable of moving troops over almost any type of ground.

For the next 12 months the new vehicles will be put through their paces by the Royal Marines for training and familiarisation before they are declared ready for operational use.

The £60m contract saw the 'go-anywhere' vehicles manufactured by Alvis Hagglunds on time and to cost. A total of 108 Vikings will help ensure that the Royal Marines are suitably equipped as a key element of the UK's rapid reaction force for the next 20 years.
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Zitat:GROSSBRITANNIEN

Erstmals seit 1996 verlegt wieder ein britischer Minenabwehrverband über den Atlantik an die US-Ostküste.

Zur Task Group Aurora gehören die Minenjagdboote PEMBROKE, WALNEY und SANDOWN (SANDOWN-Klasse) sowie MIDDLETON (HUNT-Klasse), begleitet von einem Flottenversorger und dem diesmal als MCM-Führungsschiff fungierenden amphibischen Unterstützungsschiff (Landing Ship Logistic - LSL) SIR BEDIVERE.