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Trägergestütze Kampfflugzeuge
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fazer600 schrieb:Phantom, wenn du die die Piloten nicht auch auf die 7% vorbereitet hast, die eben auch geschehen können, nutzen dir die 93% vorher auch nichts ! Dann wird auch deine tolle F-35C von einer Flanker oder einer Rafale abgeschossen......
Sag mal, das meinst du jetzt nicht im Ernst. In diesen 93% geschieht alles aber sicher kein Dogfight. Und das passiert vorher. Du musst doch den Piloten für die 93% ein optimales Flugzeug bauen und sicher nicht für die 7% erst danach eintreten. Gleiches gilt für die Ausbildung, der Schwerpunkt muss auf dem BVR-Kampf und dem kurzen Kontakt vor dem Eintritt in den WVR-Kampf liegen wo man mit den Kurzstreckenraketen noch eine hochprozentige Chance zum Abschuss mit off-boresight Missile hat.

Offensichtlich hat keiner Lust es zu lesen, weil man Angst vor der Realität hat, aber ich velrink es gerne auch noch 100x.
http://www.sldinfo.com/shaping-the-f-35-...nterprise/
Zitat:SLD: As a former fighter pilot, you have much F-15 experience. How will pilots perform air-to-air operations differently with the F-35? It appears to be a big culture change.



Bartos: Well, it is. And without getting into all the tricks that the F-35 has up its sleeve, because you’re stealthy, you can get a lot closer to the adversary and your missile shots are now lethal, no-escape shots. With the F-15 today, you’re very wary of the range of the other guy’s missile, and you basically have to assume that he’s locked on to you, or at least knows where you are since you are in a big, non-stealthy airframe. And since you don’t have a missile warning system, you have to always assume that there is a missile headed your way when you get near an adversary.

You wind up playing this game of chicken, where you get close enough to throw a rock, and then you run away to avoid any rock coming back at you. And then you try to sneak back and throw another rock from a closer range. And then you run again and try to avoid his next rock. You hope he runs out of rocks first, or that he’s not looking when you throw one of your rocks. But you never get in there and throw rocks without the fear of retribution.

Like the F-22, the F-35 can maneuver right in there and attack with a close-in kill shot without playing chicken. If the F-35 gets in a bad situation, the pilot can extract himself a heck of a lot easier than in an F-15. The F-35 can turn away and still attack because it has eyes in the back of its head coupled with high off boresight missiles.

DAS is always tracking every aircraft nearby, in every direction, simultaneously, and looking for inbound missiles at the same time. F-35 mission fusion software keeps targets and IDs sorted out, even in a dynamic turning dogfight or when a target is directly behind you.

While flying an F-15 in a dogfight, I have to constantly swivel my head to manually detect and track adversaries and wingmen with my eyes. Situational awareness breaks down quickly, and I’m suddenly wondering if that distant object I’m looking at is an F-15 or an adversary aircraft.

I’ve flown against MiG-29s, and it wasn’t until I was up close and saw the paint job that I could be positive it wasn’t an F-15. With your head and eyes shifting back and forth under high G loading in a turning fight, it is very easy to lose sight, get confused, and misidentify aircraft.

Zitat:Ich kenne auch die Berichte aus dem Kosovokrieg, das waren alles keine klassichen Dogfights, sondern WVR-Abschüsse, das weiß ich auch.
Komm, bring mir jetzt die Berichte, wenn die über 10% aller Abschüsse hinausgehen, in denen das Flugzeug die entscheidenden Manöver zum Abschuss beigetragen hat, dann hast du Recht
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