21.07.2007, 16:56
Zitat:Das mit den Slawen betrifft auch GRiechen ? Es ist eben so ...
Ich weiss eben nicht was ein englisch kurs in DE kostet..aber Ich wuerde Ihn Dir gerne bezahlen...falls noetig...
Damit du endlich verstehen kannst um was es hier geht...
lesen...lernen...und sich schlau machen...
Zitat:liebe griechen eure zeit kommt noch ..ihr seit zimmlich albernd.
Hoffentlich bald...den dann wird eure 50 jahre "geschichte-Maerchen-zeit" vorbei sein...
Zitat:..und die Archive des Auswertigen amtes sind tatsachen ..jetz machst du dich aber lächerlich ..den es geht nicht um Hitler den 2 weltkrieg sonder um die zeit 1878 - 1914 hier wird nachgewisen das es eine Makedonische Identität gibt
NOCHMAL...LESEN...DANN ETWAS VON SICH LASSEN...
Foreign Evaluation of the ethnic make-up of Macedonia around the time of the Balkan wars
"Macedonian" was a geographical label, not ethnic. For outside/ foreign observers in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when the first stages of Macedonist ethnogenosis had taken place, there was simply not sufficient evidence to distinguish the Vardar Slavs from the Bulgarians. Indeed there was simply no historic reality to a "Macedonian" race existing for thousands of years in the region. This is reflected through the fact that foreign records did not take into consideration the small faction of Macedonists when considering the pressing Macedonian Problem, its ethnic make-up and future in light of the crumbling Ottoman Empire.
Needless to say not one foreign record, map or census: be it Ottoman, English, French or anyother ever mentioned a seperate "Macedonian ethnicity" or real "Macedonian language" (see numerous maps and censuses below).
None of the following censuses identified any "Macedonian" language/ conscience/ ethnicity; only Greek, Bulgarian, Vlach, Turk, Albanian, Roma or Serb: -The League of Nations (forerunner to UN set up after WWI) never mentions any Macedonian race/ ethnicity.
-Journal "Le Temps" Paris 1905 (Gave a total population of 2,782,000 inhabitants and no "macedonian" race)
-Prof. G. Wiegland - Die Nationalen Bestrebungen der Balkansvölker. Leipzig 1898 (Gave a total population of 2,275,000 inhabitants and no "macedonian" race)
-1904 Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha for Thessaloniki, Monastiri, Scopje
-1906 Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha for the area of Macedonia.
-Official Turkish Statistic Ethnicity of Macedonia Philippopoli 1881
-Vassil Kantcheff - Macedonia Ethnicity and Statistic - 1900
-Leon Dominian - The frontiers of Language and Nationality in Europe. Published for the American Geographical Society of New York 1917
-Richard von Mach - Der Machtbereich des bulgarischen Exarchats in der Türkei. Leipzig - Neuchatel, 1906
-Prinz Tcherkasky ethnographie 1877
Lingustically there is no doubting that the so called "Macedonian language" of today is a Bulgarian dialect. The Slavs of Vardar were traditionally described as Bulgarian by foreign obsevers and the Macedonists first dubbed their Bugarski dialect 'Makedonski' in the 19th century (As was described earlier in the page by Shapkarev in 1888). For more information on the Skopjian language and the history of its transformation from a Bulgarian idiom to a "Macedonian" language visit the page: Linguistic origins of F.Y.R.O.M - From Bulgarian dialect to "Macedonian" language
According to this 1899 edition of Encyclopedia Brittanica considering the respective Serb and Bulgarian for the Slavonic population:
"Almost all independent authorities, however, agree that the bulk of the Slavonic population of Macedonia is Bulgarian"
1903 London Times article outlining the Macedonian problem. Evidently the article does not consider Macedonism significant enough, or any revisionist claims of a "Macedonian ethnicity" a reality . The only ethnic groups mentioned are Albanians, Turks, Vlachs, Rumanians, Greeks, Servian and Bulgarian.
Slavonic population exerpt (Click for greater picture resolution
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