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ich schreib das mal hierher, weil die fliegende Komponente schon bisher in Zusammenhang mit dem schwimmenden Untersatz debatiert wurde
da gibt es Berichte (z.B. hier - *klick*), unter Bezug auf <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/brazilian-navy-restarts-kc-2-turbo-trader-contract-406169/">http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ct-406169/</a><!-- m -->
Zitat:Brazilian Navy restarts KC-2 Turbo Trader contract
20:31 17 Nov 2014 A contract amendment signed on 7 November by the Brazilian navy's directorate of aeronautics and Marsh Aviation revives a long-delayed programme to refurbish and re-engine four ex-US Navy Grumman S-2 Trackers.
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The first KC-2 prototype flight is expected for November 2017 and the delivery of the first operational aircraft to the Brazilian Navy is scheduled for December 2018.
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wonach Brasiliens Navy acht (ex US) Gruman C-1 A Trader (für die Versorgung und Luftbetankung) und Grumman S-2 G Tracker (ex Urus für die AEW - Rolle) beschaffen will. Über den Deal mit den Trader berichtet schon WIKIPEDIA , unter Bezug auf Flightglobal - allerdings scheint das inzwischen aktuell zu werden
Die Maschinen sollen von Embraer rundumerneuert und u.a. mit neuen Honeywell TP 331-14 GR Turboprop fit gemacht werden.
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Upgrade of the Brazilian navy’s 12 A-4 Skyhawk (carrier-capable) combat aircraft by domestic Embraer to be stretched in time … instead of Sep 2015, now scheduled to be completed by Nov 2017.
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The Brazilian Navy is planning an extensive (4-year) refit/modernization of aircraft carrier SAO PAULO in order to extend the already 51-year-old ship's life to the late 2030s.
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das Video hier <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuBLNthArIk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuBLNthArIk</a><!-- m --> zeigt die zweite Eindockung der Sao Paulo - ein offenbar komplexes Manöver, weil das Marinedock gerade ausreicht, diesen Träger aufzunehmen.
Hier <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPJQcHVuRAU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPJQcHVuRAU</a><!-- m --> (portugiesisch, hochgeladen schon 2011) wird dagegen die Planung des künftigen brasilialnischen Trägers NAe A-16 "Amazonas" vorgestellt. Ein deutlich größeres Schiff - und ich frage mich gerade, wo Brasilien den bauen und unterhalten will.
Es handelt sich - verblüfft stelle ich das fest - um einen Träger mit "Sprungschanzentechnik", also einen Rückschritt gegenüber dem bisherigen System. Während bei 2:30 auf russische (Kuznetsov) und indische Bezüge (spekulativ) hingewiesen wird, erinnert die bildhafte Konzeptdarstellung an entsprechende Darstellungen aus China. Tatsächlich hat Brasilien ja den Chinesen Hilfestellung bei der Besatzungsschulung (zumindest im Flugdeckbereich) der Liaoning geleistet - eine Weiterführung dieser Zusammenarbeit wäre auch logisch.
Man darf gespannt sein, ob sich solche Bezüge künftig bestätigen lassen.
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Um mein irrtümliches Doppelposting zu redigieren:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiNnMs-2ZfQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiNnMs-2ZfQ</a><!-- m --> (portug.) zeigt den derzeitigen Betrieb auf der NAe Sao Paulo mit den dort eingesetzten Mustern, und <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viZQhY7T5zQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viZQhY7T5zQ</a><!-- m --> das gemeinsame Training mit argent. Super Etendard auf der Sao Paulo.
Beim ersten Video auf 1:56 wird das optische Landeorientierungssystem gezeigt - interessant ist die Ähnlichkeit zu dem System, das auf der Liaoning eingesetzt wird.
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Zitat:COHA Research: Brazil Upgrades its Sao Paulo Carrier
January 31, 2014 · by COHA · in Brazil, COHA Research
An obscure fact of Latin American military affairs is that the Brazilian Navy possesses its own aircraft carrier. The vessel, now five decades old, is currently undergoing repairs so that it can serve for at least a decade more. Nevertheless, given the fast pace of South American geopolitics and geosecurity affairs, serious questions should be raised whether or not Brazil actually needs a carrier in its fleet.
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ein interessanter Artikel, der sehr viele Aussagen zusammen fasst - von daher aber auch nicht viel Neues bringt.
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Erich schrieb:ich schreib das mal hierher, weil die fliegende Komponente schon bisher in Zusammenhang mit dem schwimmenden Untersatz debatiert wurde
da gibt es Berichte (z.B. hier - *klick*), unter Bezug auf <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/brazilian-navy-restarts-kc-2-turbo-trader-contract-406169/">http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ct-406169/</a><!-- m -->
Zitat:Brazilian Navy restarts KC-2 Turbo Trader contract
20:31 17 Nov 2014 A contract amendment signed on 7 November by the Brazilian navy's directorate of aeronautics and Marsh Aviation revives a long-delayed programme to refurbish and re-engine four ex-US Navy Grumman S-2 Trackers.
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The first KC-2 prototype flight is expected for November 2017 and the delivery of the first operational aircraft to the Brazilian Navy is scheduled for December 2018.
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wonach Brasiliens Navy acht (ex US) Gruman C-1 A Trader (für die Versorgung und Luftbetankung) und Grumman S-2 G Tracker (ex Urus für die AEW - Rolle) beschaffen will. Über den Deal mit den Trader berichtet schon WIKIPEDIA , unter Bezug auf Flightglobal - allerdings scheint das inzwischen aktuell zu werden
Die Maschinen sollen von Embraer rundumerneuert und u.a. mit neuen Honeywell TP 331-14 GR Turboprop fit gemacht werden. Und neu (Danke an MX 87 im FF):
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Zitat:Brazil C-1A Traders
Listed in numerical order by US Navy Bureau Number
The aircraft below were purchased by Brazil in 2011 and will be converted to turbine engine aircraft by Marsh Aviation in Mesa, AZ.
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Zitat:Resurrected US Navy Traders to serve on Brazilian aircraft carrier
The Brazilian Navy is restarting the refurbishment of eight C1/S2 carrier based transport aircraft. If everything goes according to plan, four ex-US Navy C-1A Trader aircraft that have rested for 26 years in the aircraft boneyard in Arizona will return to sea, operating from the deck of Brazil’s aircraft carrier São Paulo.
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While the eight airframes were bought at a ‘bargain’ price of $32,000 each, the entire refurbishment, re-engining and upgrading program would cost $167 million, according to the original contract awarded to Marsh back in 2011. M7 would receive $106 million for its part in the five-year project. The upgrade work will be performed in San Antonio, Texas, at the facilities of M7 Aerospace, an Elbit Systems of America subsidiary, under the supervision of Brazilian Navy officers who are currently deployed to San Antonio.
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While the eight airframes were bought at a ‘bargain’ price of $32,000 each, the entire refurbishment, re-engining and upgrading program would cost $167 million, according to the original contract awarded to Marsh back in 2011. M7 would receive $106 million for its part in the five-year project. The upgrade work will be performed in San Antonio, Texas, at the facilities of M7 Aerospace, an Elbit Systems of America subsidiary, under the supervision of Brazilian Navy officers who are currently deployed to San Antonio.
Originally scheduled for delivery by 2015, the first KC-2 prototype flight is expected for November 2017 and the delivery of the first operational aircraft to the Brazilian Navy is scheduled for December 2018. The aircraft will be operated by the 1st Transport and Early Warning Squadron (VEC-1) based in the Sao Pedro d’Aldeia Naval Air Station.
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die Skyhawks werden auch für eine weitere Einsatzperiode fit gemacht
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Zitat: Embraer Defense & Security delivers the first modernized AF-1B jet fighter to the Brazilian Navy
Gavião Peixoto, Brazil, May 26, 2015 – Embraer Defense & Security held the delivery ceremony, today, of the first modernized AF-1 (AF-1B) fighter jet to the Brazilian Navy at its industrial plant in Gavião Peixoto, in outstate São Paulo. .... The AF-1 program (the name given by the Navy to the McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk) provides for the revitalization and modernization of 12 subsonic jets – nine AF-1 single-seaters and three AF-1A two-seaters.
The AF-1 is an intercept and attack airplane operating from an aircraft carrier to provide air defense for the fleet. These modernized Navy jets received new navigation, weapons, power, tactical communications and sensor systems, plus computers and multimode state-of-the art radar. This equipment, along with the structural work that was performed, will make it possible for these jet fighters to continue operating until 2025. Embraer’s modernization program also includes supplying briefing and debriefing stations that are already being used for the training and proficiency of pilots of the VF-1 Falcão Squadron, in order to improve their use, to reduce costs, and to bring greater effectiveness to mission planning and execution.
“For the Brazilian Navy, the modernization of the AF-1 aircraft at Embraer is another important step in capacitating base of Brazil’s defense industry, and the results achieved will allow Naval Aviation to operate an aircraft with state-of-the-art sensors and equipment, representing a large forward leap in the Navy’s capacity,” said Fleet Admiral Eduardo Bacellar Leal Ferreira, Navy Commander.
“This is the first contract for systems integration that we have signed with the Brazilian Navy and, therefore, is a landmark in our relations,” said Jackson Schneider, President and CEO of Embraer Defense & Security. “The modernization of the AF-1 was a significant technological challenge, since it is a platform that we did not develop. Nevertheless, with the support and competence of the staff of the Brazilian Navy, we were able to deliver a solution that fully meets the operational needs of our client in demonstration of our commitment to the Navy’s projects.”
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Embraer has returned the first of 12 modernised AF-1B (A-4 Skyhawk) carrier-based combat aircraft to the Brazilian Navy ... after upgrade to serve through 2025.
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