(22.10.2025, 14:55)alphall31 schrieb: Die Artbtl der Brig bekommen eine zusätzliche Batterie welche über zusätzliche aufklärungsmittel (Drohnen im mittleren Reichweitenband ) und Loitering Munition Ausgestattet wird . Das gilt für schwere und mittlere Brigaden.

(22.10.2025, 19:30)Broensen schrieb:

Soldat und Technik schrieb:...Dagegen kehren die Artilleriebataillone der bisherigen BCT wie bei der U.S. Army zuvor üblich auf die Divisionsebene zurück. Ihr Zusammenwirken mit Drohnen soll dennoch die Effektivität steigern....

Wie von Quintus und mir gepredigt: Die Artillerie kann und muss auf die Divisionsebene wandern, um auf dem Drohnen-überfluteten Gefechtsfeld zu bestehen.
Und sie braucht Raketen, Drohnen, LM.

Zitat: Germany’s new €377B military wish list

A new procurement blueprint seen by POLITICO shows Germany’s plan to become the backbone of the continent’s defense revival.

BERLIN — Friedrich Merz said the quiet part out loud back in May: Germany intends to build the Bundeswehr into “the strongest conventional army in Europe,” pledging to give it “all the financial resources it needs.”

Five months later, the German chancellor aims to add the hardware to that ambition, according to new internal government documents seen by POLITICO.

The sprawling 39-page list lays out €377 billion in desired buys across land, air, sea, space and cyber. The document is a planning overview of arms purchases that will be spelled out in the German military’s 2026 budget, but many are longer-term purchases for which there is no clear time frame.

Taken together, it's a comprehensive roadmap for Germany’s long-overdue defense overhaul, anchored firmly in domestic industry.

Politically, the timing tracks with Merz’s shift to a new financing model. Since the spring, Berlin has moved to carve out defense from Germany’s constitutional debt brake, allowing sustained multiyear spending beyond the nearly exhausted €100 billion special fund set up under former Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s tenure.

Items on the list will eventually appear, in smaller tranches, when they’re mature enough for a parliamentary budget committee vote. All procurements valued over €25 million need the committee’s sign-off.
Hundreds of billions

The documents show that the Bundeswehr wants to launch about 320 new weapons and equipment projects over the next year's budget cycle. Of those, 178 have a listed contractor. The rest remain “still open,” showing that much of the Bundeswehr’s modernization plan is still on the drawing board.

German companies dominate the identifiable tenders with around 160 projects, worth about €182 billion, tied to domestic firms.

Rheinmetall is by far the biggest winner. The Düsseldorf-based group and its affiliated ventures appear in 53 separate planning lines worth more than €88 billion. Around €32 billion would flow directly to Rheinmetall, while another €56 billion is linked to subsidiaries and joint ventures, such as the Puma and Boxer fighting vehicle programs run with KNDS.

The document foresees a total of 687 Pumas, including 662 combat versions and 25 driver-training vehicles, to be delivered by 2035. In air defense, the Bundeswehr aims to procure 561 Skyranger 30 short-range turret systems for counter-drone and short-range protection — a program fully under Rheinmetall’s lead. Along with that come grenades and rifle rounds in the millions.

Diehl Defence emerges as the Bundeswehr’s second major industrial anchor after Rheinmetall. The Bavarian missile manufacturer appears in 21 procurement lines worth €17.3 billion.

The largest share comes from the IRIS-T family, which is set to form the backbone of Germany’s future air defense architecture. According to the document, the Bundeswehr aims to buy 14 complete IRIS-T SLM systems valued at €3.18 billion, 396 IRIS-T SLM missiles for about €694 million and another 300 IRIS-T LFK short-range missiles worth €300 million. Together, these lines alone amount to around €4.2 billion — making IRIS-T one of the most significant single air defense programs in the Bundeswehr’s planning.

Drones are also gaining ground on the military wish list.

On the higher end, the Bundeswehr wants to expand its armed Heron TP fleet operated with Israel’s IAI, aiming to buy new munitions for around €100 million. A dozen new LUNA NG tactical drones follow at about €1.6 billion. For the navy, four uMAWS maritime drones appear in the plan for an estimated €675 million, which will include replacement parts, training and maintenance.

Several of the Bundeswehr’s most expensive new projects sit not on land, sea or in the air — but in orbit. The list includes more than €14 billion in satellite programs, calling for new geostationary communications satellites, upgraded ground control stations and, most ambitiously, a low-Earth-orbit satellite constellation worth €9.5 billion to ensure constant, jam-resistant connectivity for troops and command posts.

The push aligns with Defense Minister Boris Pistorius’ €35 billion plan to boost Germany’s “space security.”
Keeping the cash at home

One of the most politically charged plans on the Bundeswehr’s wish list is the potential top-up of 15 F-35 jets from Lockheed Martin, worth about €2.5 billion under the U.S. Foreign Military Sales system.

These would keep Germany’s nuclear-sharing role intact but also retain its reliance on American maintenance, software and mission-data access. It could also signal a further German convergence on American weaponry it cannot replace, just as political tensions deepen over the Franco-German-Spanish sixth-generation fighter jet, the Future Combat Air System.

The same U.S. framework appears across other high-profile projects.

The Bundeswehr plans to buy 400 Tomahawk Block Vb cruise missiles for roughly €1.15 billion, along with three Lockheed Martin Typhon launchers valued at €220 million — a combination that would give Germany a 2,000-kilometer strike reach.

The navy’s interim maritime-patrol aircraft plan, worth €1.8 billion for four Boeing P-8A Poseidons, also sits within the foreign military sales pipeline. All three tie Berlin’s future strike and surveillance capabilities to U.S. export and sustainment control.

Together, about 25 foreign-linked projects worth roughly €14 billion appear clearly in the Bundeswehr’s internal planning — less than 5 percent of the total €377 billion in requested spending.

Yet they account for nearly all of Germany’s strategic, nuclear-related and long-range capabilities, from nuclear-certified aircraft to deep-strike and maritime surveillance systems.

By contrast, nearly half of the list is anchored in German industry, spanning armored vehicles, sensors and ammunition lines. In financial terms, domestic firms dominate; politically, however, the few foreign systems define the country’s most sensitive military roles.

Zitat:a total of 687 Pumas, including 662 combat versions

(27.10.2025, 17:50)alphall31 schrieb: Zum Thema Struktur ist bisher zwar die kästchenkunde ausgeblieben aber wir haben die personalzahlen von offizieller Seite . Diese sind mit 260000 angegeben , wovon 40000 wehrdienstleistende/wehrpflichtige sein werden . Somit bleibt die Zahl von 17000 längerdienende für die ganze Bw. Das Heer ist zwar die größte TEilstreitkraft aber mehr als 10000 Stellen davon wird es auf keinen Fall geben von diesen 17000.
die Aufstellung von 9 Pzgrenbtl ist daher wohl unwahrscheinlich , da ja auch 561 skyranger und auch Artillerie in Form von Tomahawk zu Buche stehen. Bisher komplett außen vor sind Flapz Fk . Womit schon alleine die Flugabwehr den größten Posten bekommen wird des personalaufwuchses. Bei neu aufgestellten Brigaden muss der unterstützungsbereich genauso mit wachsen .
Auch wenn die personalzahlen wohl nicht erreicht werden sind diese aber nun mal gesetzt und auch nur diese geben uns eine mögliche Struktur vor

Zitat: Nur passen halt diese Personalzahlen nicht zum kolportierten strukturellen Aufwuchs und -wie du auch feststellst- erst recht nicht zu diesen Beschaffungsplanungen.

Zitat: Mit 10k Soldaten mehr ist doch noch nicht einmal der Aufwuchs nach bisher gültigem Zielbild gedeckt. Da sind neue Aufkl, Fla, Art, Pio, FM und CSS-Verbände ausgeplant, außerdem ein Aufwuchs der LL1 trotz Herauslösung von 31 als KrDispNatKV und die X45

(Gestern, 10:48)Garten-Grenadier schrieb: Da die Meldung hier untergangen zu sein scheint, anbei einige Highlights der möglichen Standortreaktivierung:

(Gestern, 10:48)Garten-Grenadier schrieb: Diese sind mir nochnichtmal als NVA-Standorte bekannt. Vllt auch ehemalige Kasernen der Russen ?