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- Jacks - 01.06.2004

Naja ein krieg hört sich wegen dem modernen Material schwer an aber praktisch ist Saudi-Arabien eine Söldnerarmee.Ein Krieg dürfte mit annehmbarer
Truppenstärke( 75000 Mann) nicht alzu schwierig sein.Aber was man dabei viel mehr bedenken sollte ist wie angesprochen der Aufschrei in der moslemischen Welt.Irak mag eine Sache sein aber Saudi-Arabien mit seinen heiligen Städten ist nochmal ein ganz anderer.Wenn christliche Soldaten (kreuzzügler) die heiligen Städte besetzen müsste eigentlich jeder gläubige moslem gegen die Amis kämpfen.Und da haben wir wirklich einen kampf der Kulturen.Hoffen das es niemals so weit kommen wird.
Auch wenn dieses Regime nicht wirklich ein Musterbeispiel an Menschenrechten ist,eher das genaue Gegenteil.


- Shahab3 - 01.06.2004

Vielleicht zieht auch das Agument, daß der Spritpreis dann sicherlich nochmal deutlich in die Höhe schnellt. Wink


- ThomasWach - 01.06.2004

Mhm bringt mal nicht die Szenarios durcheinander:

ich gehe davon aus, dass es zur allmählichen Auflösung des an sich pro-westlichen saudischen Establishments kommt und aus deren Trümmern die radikalen kräfte des establishments zusammen mit den jetzt schon agierenden islamisten den staat übernehmen.

Dies allein würde ausreichen um an den internationalen Finanzmärkten ein Chaos auszulösen und die OPEC in die Krise zu stürzen!

da steigt der benzinpreis von allleine. Auch würde dieses Regime automatisch das Öl als waffe gegen die "ungläubigen Imperialisten" benutzen.


Dementsprechend ist die sache mit den heiligen Stääten nicht mal so ausschlaggebend...die Empörung der islamischen Welt wäre für mich nicht so entscheidend, denn eine Revolte in saudi-Arabien wäre schon an sich ein zeichen für alle islamisten in aller Welt nun in die Offensive zu gehen gegen die westliche Welt...da wäre ein gegenschlag von uns im westen leider reecht notwendig!!

Und hinsichtlich der Truppen, 75000 mann wären doch etwas wenig, und wie schon in anderen threads diskutiert, hat die USA elementaren mangel an heereseinheiten ( warum sonst das betteln um Truppen aus aller welt für den irak?? ) und da wäre es für mich schon ein großes problem rechtzeitig genügend truppen nach saudi-arabien zu bekommen, denn wenn die revolte gelingt, sähen dies die islamisten als zeichen zum angriff und in strömen würden die islamisten aller welt nach saudi-arabien strömen ( und da macht sich deren moderne Rüstkammer doppelt gut)...also auch nicht so gut wie ich finde...

wenn die sache wirklich so eskalieren würde, würden wir eingreifen müssen!


- Seccad - 02.06.2004

Zitat:US personnel under fire near Riyadh


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Riyadh, June 2 - US military personnel who train the Saudi national guard came under fire outside the Saudi capital on Wednesday, but none were hurt, the US embassy said. ... ...
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- Merowig - 02.06.2004

@Shahab sind nicht nur Wirtschaftsprobleme - der Westen wird auch fuer Aids usw. verantwortlich gemacht....

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Zitat:American al-Qaida suspect's imam headed probed group
Congress poring over tax records of ISNA to see if Muslim nonprofit got Saudi money

By Paul Sperry
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – The California imam who helped convert an al-Qaida suspect to Islam headed a Muslim activist group under investigation here for possible financial ties to terrorist front groups.
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Zitat:Terror Suspects Beating Charges Filed in Europe

By Craig Whitlock
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, May 31, 2004; Page A01


BERLIN -- The defendant, a Tunisian man with a bushy beard, sits inside a bulletproof glass box in the courtroom. Since his arrest more than a year ago, German authorities have declared the suspect, Ihsan Garnaoui, to be a terrorist and a threat to national security, a man who plotted attacks against U.S. and Jewish targets here.
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Zitat:BOMB-TRUCK THREAT IN APPLE

By MATTHEW SWEENEY

May 31, 2004 -- An internal NYPD memo warns that terrorists are seeking truck-driver licenses to try to use the vehicles as mobile bombs, Sen. Charles Schumer said.
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Zitat:Philippines arrests Muslim militant, finds bombs
31 May 2004 09:01:41 GMT

MANILA, May 31 (Reuters) - The Philippines arrested a Muslim with links to a local militant group and seized improvised explosives, preventing an attack on a ferry in the south of the country, navy officials said on Monday.
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Zitat:New Padilla Info Not Part of Court Case

By ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court justices read the newspapers, and they cannot help but ponder powerful new allegations that the subject of one of their biggest cases this term was heavily involved in terrorist plots against U.S. civilians, lawyers say.
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- Shahab3 - 02.06.2004

Zitat:An internal NYPD memo warns that terrorists are seeking truck-driver licenses to try to use the vehicles as mobile bombs,
loooooooooool !! :laugh:
Es ist ja garnicht so, daß die Angst vor den Terroristen zusätzlich künstlich geschürt wird, nöö ! Von Propaganda will ich ja nicht reden. Sowas betreibt man ja nicht. Wink


- Merowig - 03.06.2004

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Zitat:U.S. Raids N.Va. Office of Saudi-Based Charity
Wednesday June 02, 2004 7:25am
Alexandria, Va. (AP) - Federal agents have raided the Alexandria (website - news) headquarters of a Saudi-based charity founded by a nephew of Osama bin Laden (website - news - bio) .

The Washington Post reports that the FBI (website) , immigration agents and the Joint Terrorism Task Force raided the World Assembly of Muslim Youth on Friday. All the office's files and computer hard drives were seized, and the group says a volunteer board member was arrested on immigration charges.
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Zitat:Islamism's Campus Club

By Jonathan Dowd-Gailey
Middle East Quarterly | June 2, 2004

The northern Virginia-based Muslim Students' Association (MSA) might easily be taken for a benign student religious group. It promotes itself as a benevolent, non-political entity devoted to the simple virtue of celebrating Islam and providing college students a healthy venue to develop their faith and engage in philanthropy. Along these lines, its constitution declares the MSA's mission as serving "the best interest of Islam and Muslims in the United States and Canada so as to enable them to practice Islam as a complete way of life."[1]
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Yet consider some of these recent activities of the MSA:

· At a meeting in Queensborough Community College in New York in March 2003, a guest speaker named Faheed declared, "We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress. The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it ... Eventually there will be a Muslim in the White House dictating the laws of Shariah."
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Zitat:Drive to halt spread of al-Qa'eda in UK
By Toby Helm
(Filed: 31/05/2004)


Downing Street has drawn up secret plans to prevent the spread of extremism among young Muslims after confidential studies found that there are up to 10,000 "active" supporters of al-Qa'eda in Britain.
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Zitat:Risk of radioactive "dirty bomb" growing


19:00 02 June 04

Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.

The risk of somebody somewhere triggering a radioactive "dirty bomb" is growing, evidence gathered by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency suggests.

The IAEA's records, which it has released to New Scientist, show a dramatic rise in the level of smuggling of radiological materials, defined as radioactive sources that could be used in dirty bombs but not nuclear bombs.
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Zitat:WAKE-UP CALL TO THE MUJAHIDEEN

SITE Institute


SITE Institute,6/2/2004 - On June 2, 2004, the following message was posted on an Islamic Website considered to be a mouthpiece of Al Qaeda. This important and dangerous message questions the Mujahideen’s focus on Saudi Arabia alone and instigates a wake-up call for Muslims to attack other countries that are harboring Americans such as Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain.
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- Rob - 03.06.2004

Zitat:Es ist ja garnicht so, daß die Angst vor den Terroristen zusätzlich künstlich geschürt wird, nöö ! Von Propaganda will ich ja nicht reden. Sowas betreibt man ja nicht.
Wer käme schon auf die Idee einen Laster voller Sprengstoff in ein Hochhaus zu fahren und zu sprengen Wink
So etwas ist alt bekannt und keine Propaganda, die IRA hatte sogar Raketenwerfer in Autos eingebaut und auf Downing street 10 gefeuert.


- Merowig - 03.06.2004

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Zitat:Saudi Militants Fire at Americans, Oil Off Peak
Wed Jun 2, 2004 08:02 PM ET
By Samia Nakhoul
RIYADH (Reuters) - Suspected militants shot at U.S. military personnel in Saudi Arabia on Wednesday, adding to fears over stability that have sent oil prices to record highs since 22 people, mostly foreigners, were killed in an al Qaeda attack.

Saudi forces also killed two militants linked to the weekend shooting and hostage-taking spree on oil firms and Western compounds in the eastern oil city of Khobar, officials said.
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- Popeye - 03.06.2004

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Pakistanische Soldaten erschießen mutmaßliches El-Kaida-Mitglied
Drei weitere Verdächtige an Grenze zu Afghanistan festgenommen

Zitat:Islamabad - Pakistanische Soldaten haben an der Grenze zu Afghanistan ein mutmaßliches El-Kaida-Mitglied erschossen und drei weitere Verdächtige festgenommen. Grenzposten hätten einen aus Afghanistan kommenden Pick-up-Transporter an der Grenze zum Stammesgebiet Nord-Waziristan abgefangen, sagte ein Militärsprecher am Donnerstag. Einer der Insassen habe eine Handgranate in Richtung der Soldaten geworfen, ohne sie zu treffen. Die Soldaten hätten das Feuer eröffnet und den Mann getötet............



- Popeye - 03.06.2004

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Behörden sagen flüchtigen Geiselnehmern freies Geleit zu
Um weiteres Blutvergießen zu vermeiden

Zitat:Riad - Nach dem Terrorangriff in Khobar haben saudiarabische Behörden dreien der Täter freies Geleit zugesichert und die mutmaßlichen El-Kaida-Terroristen flüchten lassen. Nachdem bereits zehn Geiseln getötet worden seien, hätten amerikanische Behörden dazu geraten, um weiteres Blutvergießen zu vermeiden, verlautete am Mittwochabend aus Sicherheitskreisen in Riad. Das Innenministerium hatte zunächst erklärt, die Extremisten hätten bei ihrer Flucht am Sonntag Geiseln als menschliche Schutzschilde benutzt.

Bislang eine Festnahme

Nach Angaben des Gewährsmannes verließen die drei das Gebäude in der Nacht, bevor Spezialeinheiten die Wohnanlage stürmten. Die Täter seien anschließend in einem gestohlenen Wagen geflohen. Einen vierten Komplizen hätten sie zurückgelassen, in der Meinung, er sei getötet worden. Der Mann wurde verletzt festgenommen...........



- Merowig - 04.06.2004

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Zitat:Sydney man charged with inciting terrorism
June 2, 2004 - 2:36PM

Sydney man Bilal Khazal was charged today over terrorism activities. He was later granted bail during a brief court appearance.

Australian Federal Police (AFP) said the 34-year-old, who allegedly published documents inciting terrorism on the internet, was charged with one count of collecting or making documents likely to facilitate terrorist acts.
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Zitat:Suspected al-Qaeda member arrested by Philippines

MANILA: Philippine authorities have arrested an Arab missionary who is suspected of being a member of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in the southern island of Mindanao, military officials said yesterday.
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Und wieder eine saudische "Wohltaetigkeitsorganisation" im Visier der Behoerden...
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Zitat:U.S., Saudis Crack Down on Al-Haramain Charity Group
Wed Jun 2, 2004 08:05 PM ET
By Arshad Mohammed
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia on Wednesday said it was dissolving a Riyadh-based charity suspected of funding al Qaeda and will fold its assets into a new group that will channel all Saudi charitable contributions abroad.

In addition to winding down the Riyadh-based Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, Saudi and U.S. officials said they would seek to block the assets of its local branches in Afghanistan, Albania, Bangladesh, Ethiopia and the Netherlands.
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Zitat:Japan Arrests 8th Person in Al Qaeda-Linked Probe
Wed Jun 2, 2004 11:07 PM ET
TOKYO (Reuters) - Japanese police acting on suspicions al Qaeda may have set up a network in Japan arrested an eighth person on Thursday for violating immigration laws.
Six people were arrested last week as part of an investigation into the activities of Lionel Dumont, an Algerian-born French national suspected of being involved in delivering equipment and funds to al Qaeda while living in Japan.
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- Merowig - 05.06.2004

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Zitat:Saudi Qaeda Leader Praises Attacks for Hiking Oil Price
Thu Jun 3, 2004 11:43 PM ET
DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda's top leader in Saudi Arabia has praised a recent series of militant attacks in the kingdom which helped send oil prices to record highs on fears of instability.
The statement, issued by Abdulaziz al-Muqrin on an Islamist Web site, called on Saudis to support the militants' campaign against the U.S.-allied Saudi monarchy and accused the government of lying about details of the attacks
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Zitat:Terrorism Fears Grow on Asian Oil Route

YEOH EN-LAI

Associated Press


SINGAPORE - Fears are growing of terrorism in the Malacca Straits, the pirate-ridden Southeast Asian waterway that is a conduit for half the world's oil supply.
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Zitat:Dutch charity accused of funding Muslim terrorists

3 June 2004

AMSTERDAM — The Dutch government faces questions on why it did not act earlier against a Muslim charity which has been accused of supporting terrorism.

On Wednesday, US and Saudi Arabian officials announced a joint crackdown on Muslim charities they accuse of aiding Islamic terrorists.
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@Shahab folgender Artikel koennt dich interessieren ...

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Zitat:The Real Roots of Muslim Hatred

By Andrew G. Bostom
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 3, 2004



“Are you Muslim or Christian? We don't want to kill Muslims.” That’s what the Islamic terrorists reportedly told their innocent prey during a murderous shooting spree last Saturday in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, that left at least 17 civilians dead in the initial assault. 1 How are we to interpret such repeated acts of terrorism, targeting non-Muslims?
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- Merowig - 07.06.2004

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Zitat:Irish cameraman shot dead in Saudi capital
Sun 6 June, 2004 21:36

By Samia Nakhoul

RIYADH (Reuters) - An Irish cameraman has been shot and killed and a British journalist wounded after gunmen fired on them as they filmed in an Islamist militant area of the Saudi capital Riyadh, security sources and diplomats say.
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- Merowig - 07.06.2004

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Zitat:The Enemy is Not Just Al-Qaeda
By Robert Spencer

“I believe you are what Americans call Al-Qaeda.”[1] National Guard Spc. Ryan Anderson gave this response when two undercover agents he thought were Islamic terrorists asked him: “What organization do you think we are?”

Anderson, who is now under arrest for attempting to betray his country and join the jihad, chose his words carefully. A convert to Islam who had spent considerable time cruising for radical Muslim Internet sites, Anderson knew that what Americans think of as one unified organization — Al-Qaeda — is in reality a loose affiliation of many organizations, or even an American conceptual grouping of people who share common motives and goals.
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Zitat:Rumsfeld Fears Losing War On Islamic Extremism
Thwarting Terrorists Not Enough, Secretary Says

POSTED: 12:38 pm EDT June 5, 2004

SINGAPORE -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says the United States and its allies are winning some battles against terrorism -- but may be losing the broader war against Islamic extremism.
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Zitat:Terror in the name of God
By Ahmede Hussain
For the Bangladeshi-born British envoy, Anwar Chowdhury, the forenoon of May 21 started without any clue of what was in the offing. It was 1:35 and a huge crowd of people greeted Anwar, as he was about to leave the Shrine of Shahjalal after saying Friday prayers. But as the envoy, only 18 days into his new job, reached the exit door of the 700-year-old tomb, a bearded man in his early forties halted the High Commissioner's way. "The man was telling Anwar to give him some money," recalls Advocate Abdul Hai Khan, Anwar Chowdhury's grandfather and a witness to the mayhem that would follow.
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